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    Re: GM's MLTL with 416-8B

    Quote Originally Posted by voice of the theater View Post
    Yes, but I'd like to test just so I know if there are any actual leaks I'd be sealing in these factory cabs or am I just playing with silicone and making a mess when and/or where I don't really need to.
    It can never hurt.It is called going the extra mile.If you feel it is too much of a bother than your in the wrong hobby !


    Quote Originally Posted by westend9 View Post
    I'll maybe try a smoke or bubble test in certain areas when I have the cabs finished and woofers mounted.
    Great minds....., AB. I have caulked all the joints with PL400, using a double application amount (two beads) and then smoothed that into the joint with a spoon. The spoon worked great.
    Absolutely ! That's the carpenter in us.Better to be safe than sorry.It is much easier to do it now while your building than have to go back.

    How bout using water and soap ? Can you use wax on the area to keep the water from penetrating the wood ?

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    Re: GM's MLTL with 416-8B

    Quote Originally Posted by voice of the theater View Post
    Yes, but I'd like to test just so I know if there are any actual leaks I'd be sealing in these factory cabs or am I just playing with silicone and making a mess when and/or where I don't really need to. Also, if I just caulked all the joints without doing a test first, I'd always wonder afterwards if I had actually fixed anything or not. Whereas if I test first, I'll know for sure if there were leaks that were sealed, and if so, I'd know that I may have to adjust the tuning of the factory cabs to compensate.....
    P.S. Another test just occurred to me--maybe I could just put a canary inside the cabinet, temporarily seal off the port and check in a couple of days to see if he's still breathing in there (like the old coal mine test).....:doh:

    Quote Originally Posted by Altec Best View Post
    It can never hurt.It is called going the extra mile.If you feel it is too much of a bother than your in the wrong hobby !
    I hate to disagree with you (because you've been incredibly generous with some top notch advice which helped me to re-cap both of my pairs of Model 19's and my Model 14's as well for example) but with all due respect, in this case--actually, doing a leak test before caulking IS going the extra mile. Remember, these are factory cabs we're talking about--"if I just caulked all the joints without doing a test first, I'd always wonder afterwards if I had actually fixed anything or not. Whereas if I test first, I'll know for sure if there were leaks that were sealed, and if so, I'd know that I may have to adjust the tuning of the factory cabs to compensate....." In other words, since these are factory cabs and I'm extremely happy with their current tuning, if I try to cut corners by not testing first, and just caulk every wood joint, I won't know afterwards if the cabinet's tuning has been changed by caulking the joints because I won't know if there were any leaks present that were sealed by caulking (which might mean that I need to consider doing some tuning adjustments/serious critical listening evaluations and/or measurements).... Wow, talk about a run-on-sentence..... I think you misunderstood my intentions (or I didn't make them clear)--there is no way I would cut corners regarding my Altecs--they are a high priority for me. I use one pair of Model 19's in my (in home) recording studio for recording/monitoring and I use the other pair of 19's in my rec room to playback mixes in a different environment/different acoustics (and of course to enjoy vinyl, CD's, DVD's digital cable, etc.). I use the Model 14's in my living room to further evaluate mixes to see what they sound like on a different pair of speakers (in a different room/different acoustics) and for general listening purposes/enjoyment as well...... If anything, the guys in my band accuse me of being too diligent--not of cutting corners. For example, after I mix a song/CD, to "test it out" I play it on both pair of 19's, the 14's, a small pair of speakers (two way with 10" woofers), a boom box, the car stereo, and even on my computer speakers. If the mix/song sounds good in all of those places, I feel like I've got a winner......
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    Re: GM's MLTL with 416-8B

    Quote Originally Posted by voice of the theater View Post
    If the mix/song sounds good in all of those places, I feel like I've got a winner......
    Agreed, wish the major players were so diligent as most CDs I've listened to in the last decade are was too forward/strident for HIFI/computer apps, though not so much for car audio. What little music I listen to these days is mostly on DVD since they are either movie soundtracks or mixed like one and use some old Sony headphones for computer.

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